Provincetown

Local Housing Partnership

and

Provincetown Housing Authority

 

Judge Welsh Hearing Room

November 17, 2006

10:00 a.m.

 

 

 

Members present:                Arturo Alon, Scott Campbell, Tim Hazel,

and Melissa Jones.

 

Member absent:                  Noah Taylor.

 

Others:                           Keith Bergman, Dave Krohn, Michele Couture,

and Doug Taylor

 

Motion:  Adjourn the previous meeting that had been convened on November 8th.

Motion:  Tim Hazel       Seconded:  Scott Campbell       Vote:  4-0-0.

 

The meeting was called to order at 10:00 a.m.

 

Policy and Procedures

As a result of the November 13, 2006 Special Town Meeting, the procedure will be identical to the town meeting.  Doug Taylor said that the LHP just adds the article into the town’s by-laws. The by-law is now in effect from the date of the posting.  If the Attorney General turns us down then we have to resubmit. 

 

Doug, continuing, said - essentially what you determine will be a deed restriction – the same as in a, b, and c.  I think it should be the same….. they might not be all one-bedroom.  Tim felt that the bedrooms should be variables.  All the rest should be boilerplate for clarity.  Tim asked, "can we get a boilerplate?"  There should be at least a couple of paragraphs that stay the same.  The deed restriction that you previously voted on should be the boilerplate.  Tim said that the deed restriction should have continuity and all be the same.  

 

Michele came to the meeting to thank everyone for all of the effort for getting this article through.  A moratorium on all condos!  It really got banged around a lot and it has been an incredible roller coaster.  It was like a little article that could.  A lot of people didn’t think of the LHP as a force to be reckoned with.  There's an article in the Cape Codder that re-energizes the community.  Please read it.  When no one was behind you guys…….  Tim said that when he was looking for leadership. Michele stepped up to the plate.  Michele got on the Manor case, too.  Now she will work to try to promote affordable housing.  She has really enjoyed the past couple of months.  Michele was thinking that this article is a bright, shiny thing and she wonders how b and c will be implemented?

 

AJ said he would like the developers to decide how to break it down.  The developer should be the person to determine the breakdown.  Tim suggested that we do need to get the category 1 under one umbrella and we do need to have all of them under the same guidelines.  We should have information on building 1a and break it down so that developers will have examples.  By and large, we should come up with models so that we can aid the developers and also encourage people to make decisions. 

 

Tim – in addition to having plans come to us under this by-law, we have to be ready for people who may define loopholes.  AJ thought about making an easier deed restriction and Doug feels that since the one we have is working, don’t keep tinkering!  Doug will e-mail a copy of the deed restriction to AJ.  Melissa said that years ago there was a survey about how many people needed housing and what their incomes were.  The most recent ones we have are confusing when lumped together.  The amnesty one came out of the big one we had one winter.  UMASS assessment report.  Tim got an abbreviated one but the big one is on line.

 

Who is going to be in charge of who gets into the lottery?  Tim said we need a person in charge of affordable housing.  He’s been beating this drum for the last few years and feels he's talking to a wall.  The reason that it has been so hard to figure out is because there are many lists and no one is in charge.  Tim – we’ve come up with the money from the housing fund, etc.  BUT NO ONE IS THE POINT PERSON!

 

Michelle said that this has come up before.  You’re right.  There is going to have to have a point person.  We need to have someone to guide people from point A to point Z.   We were calling it an affordable housing specialist.  Doug T said whether it’s a housing consultant – or whatever – we need to push this through.  Tim said it has to be user friendly and without  that we have nothing.  

 

Dave Krohn who has decided that he's a developer was in the audience and said he would be able to coordinate all of this.   (A few meetings ago this same group thought that Patrick Manning was a very knowledgeable person in this area.)   Scott said if the owners of a motel want to have a change of use - if they’re just going to condo it - it used to be change of use going before the ZBA only -  now it goes into an application.   Doug suggested that the LHP may have to start having meetings twice a month.  There are currently 42 properties that may fall under these new guidelines.

 

Tim says we must have criteria and not build 3 mega condos and 2 lousy condos in the basement to fulfill the affordable component of the by-law.  We can look at the square footage and/or other related criteria. 

 

Michele would like to suggest that next week you guys might pull together a meeting to review your by-law and then it can be presented to the planning board.  We should tighten things up a little bit.  The planning board is something you have to go through. 

 

Planning has a meeting on December 20th.  It was decided that LHP would next meet on Tuesday afternoon at 5:00p.  There was already a seed fund to hire a person and that money was frittered away with John Ryan.  The meeting on Tuesday, November 21st will be entitled "A Workshop on Article 12."

 

Any other business that shall properly come before the board

At this point in the meeting Dave Krohn was invited to present his project.  He gave everyone an overview and supplied everyone with a professional hand-out.  Said he only wanted it regarded as an informational session.  "He has a project and he'd like advice." 

 

Dave Krohn said his plan is preliminary and this is a question and answer feedback kind of thing.  Doug said he's not to get too detailed.  He then gave his background and the history of purchasing the tennis club and he wants to become a part of the community.  So what he has is 4.1 acres of property that has been a tennis club since 1947 and he would like to build condos for market rate and for workforce; the breakdown would be  50% workforce and 50% condos.  And he hopes it creates some kind of model that will help solve the problem of affordable housing.  Overall Tim thinks you’re heading in the right direction.  What are some of the overriding concerns?  "It’s a fiduciary exercise," said Dave.

 

All units will be for ownership.  He was advised to go before Planning and ask about the height limitations since that was one of his questions.  Tim would say if you are going to do this it would be helpful if you had our support.

 

Dave continued, "There is not a lot of money to be made in tennis."  Krohn is living in the chapel now.  We’re hiring a tennis pro and going for a beer and wine license, etc.  He has big plans and wants to make it a little clubby.  Maxine said this is the application form and then there is what you have to supply.  And there’s a sheet that asks for what the market ones are – identify all plans – and it’s spelled out for this in   conservation, zoning, planning, health – there are plans for everything.  His angst is that it takes too much time and he wants to start in February. 

 

Public Statements

There were none.

 

Minutes

Motion:  Approve the minutes of the January 20th, July 21st, and September 15th meetings as written.

Motion:      Tim Hazel       Seconded:  Scott Campbell      Vote:  3-0-1 ab (MJ)

 

Adjournment happened at 11:25 a.m.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Evelyn Gaudiano

Evelyn Rogers Gaudiano

 

Approved by ____________________________on ______________, 2006.

                                Arturo Alon, Chair