The Provincetown Historic District Commission
Wednesday, February 08, 2006, Town Hall, 260
Meeting Minutes
Members present: John Dowd, Clo Tepper, Carol Neal, Polly Burnell, Marcene Marcoux and Nathan Butera.
Members absent: None
Staff present: Maxine Notaro, Doug Taylor
Work Session 3:45 pm
Administrative Review
John Reis, Inc. on
behalf of Michael McIntyre of 67 Bradford Street for demolition existing office
building and construct a new building in same footprint.
After a short discussion,
the board members felt a full review would be required.
John Reis, Inc. on
behalf of Cape Cod Pilgrim Memorial Association to demolition and reconstruct
the entranceway. The newly constructed
entrance way will have the same roof pitch as the existing.
Moved John Dowd
moved to approve as presented.
Seconded Carol
Neal seconded the motion.
Vote 4 in favor John Dowd, Carol Neal, Polly
Burnell and Marcene Marcoux with one abstention Clo Tepper.
Michael Czyoski presented an application for siding replacement to be of hardi-board. The west side of the building was previously approved using hardi-board and now the property owners would like to match the east side to that of the west elevation.
Mr. Czyoski said one side of the building is already hardi-board and there would be no consistency if the Board will not allow what was previously approved on the other side.
The Commissioners said that they previously approved hardi-board but after seeing how it severely alters historic buildings they do not feel that they can continue to approve it on historically significant buildings over 50 years old.
Carol Neal said the cement board does not weather the same as clapboard and referred to HDC guideline 12. Siding which states synthetic siding is generally discouraged because it severely compromises the appearance and integrity of historic buildings and will only be approved on a case-by-case basis.
The board members felt there is a great difference between a reproduction and the actual materials and they try to preserve what is natural.
The board members denied the request for hardi-board.
The windows were not addressed the way they were presented. A site visit was scheduled for noon on 2/9/06.
2006-07
Withdrawn without prejudice
Application
by Tom Thompson for a Certificate to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The
applicant seeks approval to amend previously approved plans to cover first
floor decks with porches at the property located at 3 Fishburn Court,
Provincetown, MA.
2006-04
(Continued to February 22, 2006))
Application
by Regina Binder on behalf of Alex Mazzocca and Glen Martin for a Certificate to be
issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of
Provincetown. The applicant seeks
approval for approximately a 1300 square foot addition to a freestanding
2-story cottage at the property located at 15 Brewster Street, Provincetown,
MA.
Public Hearings
2006-05
(Continued from 1/25/06) Revised plans for Main House and Garage/Cottage
Application
by Thomas Shirk and Thomas Bantle for a Certificate to be issued in accordance with
the Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the General
By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown for the property located at 7
Johnson Street, Provincetown, MA. 2006-05 (Continued from 1/25/06) Revised
plans for Main House and Garage/Cottage
Members sitting were
Clo Tepper, Nathan Butera, John Dowd, Polly Burnell and Marcene Marcoux.
Main House - John
DeSouza said they reduced the tower to 2 with an increase on the south
elevation to even the look. The
applicants requested a skylight be installed on the north elevation for some
light in that area of the building.
North elevation
The designers discussed the band design on the building. They brought the band around the back and
dove it into the corner board. The band
on the front west continues around to the north.
Cottage Mr.
DeSouza said the property owners would like to increase the height of the
cottage to accommodate the relocation of the stairs from the outside to the
inside. The building was designed to
look like a Cape garage. The windows
will be 6/6 and the dormer is also needed due to the stair relocation.
The door on the
north elevation was relocated to allow for a railing design. There is minimal roof height to this
building.
Polly Burnell felt
that 2/2 windows were better suited for this structure.
John Dowd said the
2/2 windows in the dormer make the building appear to look like more mass. The 6/6 windows reduce the mass.
Mr. DeSouza said the
2/1 windows would have a more casual look.
The proportion of the windows should be uniform.
Marcene Marcoux said
the guidelines speak to keeping the old design.
John Dowd said the
railing system looks too thin and spindly.
Should make sure they are not insubstantial when installing.
Two letters in favor
abutters at 5 & 9 Arch Street were read into the record.
Moved John Dowd
moved to accept the proposed alterations of February 8, 2006 as follows:
— Proposed south elevation on the main house
corner boards in the tower structure to be widened to the width of the
supporting columns below
—4 windows in the tower building on the south
elevation view have no clapboards between the windows
— Rear dormer on the south elevation
eliminate the bracket and caps over the window
— No clapboard in the dormer section
— The skylight is approved as presented
— The proposed tower go to the peak instead of
the flat roof
— Ornamental tower be made of wood scroll
serpentine form
— Banister design be re-submitted and approved
by sub-committee
— The east dormer 6 light becomes a 2 light
split
— 6/6 windows to be 2/1s
— The west elevation dormer windows go from
6/6 to 2/1
— First floor windows to be changed from 6/6
to 2/1
Seconded by Polly
Burnell.
Voted unanimously.
Polly Burnell, John Dowd, Clo Tepper, Marcene Marcoux and Nathan Butera. Carol
Neal recused herself.
2006-13
Application
by Elizabeth Brooke for a Certificate to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The
applicant seeks approval for the addition of a deck and glass doors to the
south elevation; move a casement window and remove a double-hung window on the
east elevation at the property located at 104A Bradford Street,
Provincetown, MA.
Sitting on the case
were Nathan Butera, Carol Neal, John Dowd, Polly Burnell and Marcene Marcoux.
Voted John Dowd
moved to accept the plans as presented.
Seconded by Carol
Neal. Voted unanimously. Nathan Butera,
Carol Neal, John Dowd, Polly Burnell and Marcene Marcoux.
2006-14
Application
by Mark Kinnane of Cape Associates, Inc. on behalf of Gail Williams for a Certificate to be
issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of
Provincetown. The applicant seeks
approval to replace all windows with Marvin insulated SDL windows; increase the
size of the sunroom and change the windows to doors; increase the height of the
second floor roof on the street side and rear driveway side; add or modify
dormers; replace vinyl siding with hardi-board clapboard siding and re-roof the
building at the property located at 4 Dyer Street, Provincetown, MA.
Present were Peter
Sweeney, Architect, Mark Kinnane, contractor, Vernon Brown, designer and Gail
Williams, property owner.
Polly Burnell said
the building was quite large and asked what the increase was.
Mark Kinnane said the
scale units work out to be an increase of 9.1
Carol Neal said one
request is to remove vinyl siding and replace with hardi-board.
Mr. Kinnane said
after the earlier discussion on hardi-board he now has a different feeling.
Ms. Williams said
the age of the building is estimated between 1850 and 1880.
The Board discussed
the separation of the windows on the front elevation, which proved to be a
result of the interior layout of the rooms.
Moved John Dowd
moved to accept the proposal with the following changes:
—Second floor windows on the gable end of the
south elevation retain their original location.
—Applicant to submit future plan showing the
addition of two attic 4-light windows to be approved by a sub-committee.
— East elevation two attic lights in gable
to be relocated lower and closer to the eave
— The two windows on the first floor under the
north end change from 4 light to 2 light
— The building shall be clapboard and not
hardi-board.
Seconded by Marcene
Marcoux. Voted unanimously.
2006-12
Application
by Michael Czyoski on behalf of Nikki Richer for a Certificate to be issued in accordance
with the Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the
General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to replace
three screens on the second story porch with two double hung windows to match
existing at the property located at 6 Mechanic Street, Provincetown,
MA.
Sitting on the case
was Nathan Butera, Clo Tepper, Carol Neal, John Dowd and Polly Burnell.
Moved John Dowd
moved to approve as presented with the following conditions:
— The two new windows be separated from each
other
— The distance for the window on the right by
the corner board is mirrored to the window
furthest on the left to the corner board
— Add one window adjacent to the existing
window
Seconded by Nathan
Butera. Voted unanimously. Clo Tepper,
Carol Neal, Nathan Butera, John Dowd and Polly Burnell.
543-545 Commercial
Street
2006-16
Application
by Neal Kimball on behalf of Provincetown Hospitality, Inc. for a Certificate to be
issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of
Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval
to remove a false front dormer; reconfigure the central front entry area;
reconstruct railings; change cedar shakes on the north and south sides of the
building to clapboard covering all exposed brick and cement block walls;
reconfigure door and window layouts and install new; add windows on east and
west sides; close off and convert portion of pedestrian passageway thru
building into living space; convert continuous decks along south (ocean) side
of the building to added living space and private balconies; add private
gardens along the north side of the first floor at the property located at 543-545
Commercial Street, Building #2, Provincetown, MA.
Neal Kimball said
the proposed plan is to convert this building to residential and to update to
the material and design for the area.
The idea is to create a three-dimensional design. At the present time there are rows and rows
of egresses. The proposal is to have
two means of egress on the Commercial Street faηade.
Proposed to
eliminate the walkways along the rear of the building. The plans submitted show where they project
and retract.
Carol Neal
questioned the distance of the walkways and what the mass of the building was.
Neal Kimball said
the walkways are 6 wide but will be reduced to 4 ½ feet.
Doug Taylor said the
walkways are site plan issues and not historic purview.
John Dowd said he
would like to see v-cut vertical boards used in the recessed panel bays.
Neal Kimball said
they would be using cedar shakes, hardi-plank and white trim.
Doug Taylor asked
Mr. Kimball what he meant by cedar shakes would they be split or sawn?
Neal Kimball said
sawn. They are also requesting using
hardi-plank on the waterside of the building which is the back of the building
facing the bay. Also, a lot of emphasis
will be placed on green area.
Doug Taylor asked is
Chapter 91 has been applied for.
Mr. Kimball said it
had been.
Nathan Butera said
it was difficult to approve hardi-board in principal. However, it is probably
the best thing to do on this building because it is on the waterside and it is
not an historical structure.
Neal Kimball said
the hardi-plank is synthetic clapboard in which only 35% of that facade would
be hardi-plank.
Marcene Marcoux had
a different opinion on using hardi-board.
It is her feeling that the Board should be consistent when approving or
disapproving material of this type.
This is not an historic structure but it is still in the district and is
a significant building in mass.
Attorney Chris Snow
said although this in not relevant to this case, this building went up
illegally. At present, its not the
best of buildings to look at. The
proposed plans are more pleasing to the neighborhood.
Moved John Dowd
moved to accept the plans with the following conditions:
—Recessed panels in the bay to be v-cut
vertical
—Recessed panel pillars to be recessed equally
on the sides and top and bottom
—Sharp pediment over the entryway door be
removed and replaced with a replacement 3-part panel the width of the bay and
railing
—Design of the following to be submitted and
reviewed by a sub-committee
—Hardi-board is approved based on the fact
this is a non-historic building less than 50 years of age and it is exposed to
the waterfront.
Seconded Polly
Burnell seconded the motion.
Voted four in favor:
Nathan Butera, Poly Burnell, John Dowd and Carol Neal with one abstention,
Marcene Marcoux.
540-544 Commercial
Street
2006-17
Application
by Neal Kimball on behalf of Provincetown Hospitality, Inc. for a Certificate to be
issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of
Provincetown. The applicant seeks
approval to convert a flat roof to hip roof; reconstruct railings; change cedar
shakes on the north and south side of the building to clapboard covering all
exposed brick and cement block walls; reconfigure door and window layouts and
install new; add windows on the west and west sides; close in and convert auto
passageway thru building to living space; add private gardens along north and
south sides of the first floor at the property located at 540-544 Commercial
Street, Provincetown, MA.
Moved John Dowd
moved to accept the plans as presented with the following conditions:
—Recessed panels in the bay to be v-cut
vertical
—Recessed panel pillars to be recessed equally
on the sides and top and bottom
Seconded by Nathan
Butera. Voted unanimously. (Clo Tepper,
Nathan Butera, Carol Neal, John Dowd and Polly Burnell).
2006-15
Application
by Neal Kimball on behalf of David Kucher for a Certificate to be issued in accordance
with the Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the
General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to alter the
west side of the structure by adding two awning windows on the first floor and
on awning window on the second floor at the property located at 139A
Bradford Street, Provincetown, MA.
Moved John Dowd
moved to approve with window in shed dormer with window to be square on point
fixed 1-light and to be trimmed out to match existing;
Two awning windows
to be replaced with double-hung.
Seconded by Polly
Burnell. Voted unanimously by Marcene
Marcoux, Polly Burnell, John Dowd, Carol Neal and Nathan Butera.
Administrative
Review
184 Commercial
Street
The commission
members moved to approve the same size windows 4 equally spaced, light division
2/1.
Moved to approve as presented based on the fact the deck is not visible
from the street therefore; it is not subject to review.
5
Conant Street
Neal Kimball said
there is a change in roof pitch.
Moved - John Dowd
moved to approve on the east elevation for cottages 1 and 2. The window change
from 4 square to 6 light and the roof pitch change from 10 pitch to a 12 pitch.
Seconded by Nathan
Butera. Voted unanimously by Clo
Tepper, Nathan Butera, Carol Neal, John Dowd and Marcene Marcoux.
Polly Burnell moved
to continue the meeting to noon on Thursday, February 9, 2006 for a site visit at
90 Commercial Street.
February 9, 2006 12:00 p.m.
90 Commercial Street
Present were Polly
Burnell, Carol Neal, John Dowd and Clo Tepper.
The commission
members reviewed the plans and compared them to the actual physical structure.
They discussed the original railing design and window installation.
Moved John Dowd
moved the following:
— The clapboard on the storefront windows be
removed and replaced with like material to match the adjacent windows
— To add 2 horizontal pieces of trim on the
deck skirt.
Seconded by Carol
Neal. Voted four in favor with no
opposition.
Adjournment
Moved Polly
Burnell moved to adjourn the meeting at 12:51 p.m.
Seconded by Carol
Neal. Voted unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Maxine Notaro, Permit Coordinator
Approved __________________________________ at meeting of _____________
John Dowd, Chairman