Historic
District Commission
Meeting
of
May
4, 2005, 4:00 PM
Members Present: John Dowd, Chair; Carol Neal, Vice
Chair; Meg Stewart; and Polly Burnell
Excused
Absence: Eric Dray
Town Hall Representatives: Maxine Notaro, Permit Coordinator and
Doug Taylor, Building Commissioner.
Work Session
Minutes
The Work Session
commenced at 3:30 PM. A motion was made to accept the minutes of the meetings
of February 2nd, February 16th and March 2nd.
The minutes of March 23rd and April 20th will be voted on
at the next meeting.
Moved by: Meg Stewart Seconded by: John Dowd Yea: 4 Nay: 0
A quorum being present,
Chair John Dowd called the Public Hearing to order at 4:01 PM.
Public Hearings
Case
#2005-22 (Continued from March 23rd
and will be continued at the May 18th meeting)
Application
by Peter Page on behalf of Jean Marino for a Certificate of Compliance to be issued in
accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission established under
the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant
seeks approval to remove a door and replace with a wood door and sidelight at
the property located at 14 Center Street, Provincetown, MA.
Case
#2005-32 (Continued from April 20th,
2005 and will be continued on May 18th, 2005)
Application by
Frederick and Joy Long for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to install solar panels at the property located at
90 Commercial Street, Provincetown, MA.
Case #2005-33 (Continued from April 20th, 2005)
Application by Lawrence Yahn for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to construct a second floor deck addition at the
property located at 9 Standish Avenue, Provincetown, MA.
A motion was
made to continue this case at the next meeting when more information would be
supplied.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Polly
Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 0
Case
#2005-36 (Continued from April 20th,
2005 and will be continued on May 18th, 2005)
Application by Kevin Soyt for a
Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to construct a shed
dormer with studio windows on the northwest elevation; addition of skylights to
the northwest and southeast elevations; addition of door and small balcony on
the northeast; replace deck rail with shingle wall to match building and remove
chimney built in approximately 1999 at the property located at 9 Pleasant
Street, Provincetown, MA.
Case #2005-37 (Continued from April 20th, 2005)
Application by Peter Schweizer for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to construct addition/renovation of a 1960s
condominium townhouse including raising the roofline 3 and filling in decks
and install new egress doors and windows at the property located at 184
Bradford Street, Unit B, Provincetown, MA.
The applicants returned
with amended plans. A motion was made to approved the amended plans according
to Guideline #15.
Moved
by: Carol Neal Seconded
by: Meg Stewart Yea:
3 Nay: 0
Polly
Burnell did not vote as she was not present at the initial presentation on
April 20th.
A
suggestion was made to the applicants that on the South elevation the
triangular pediment window be changed to a flat-top window.
Case #2005-38 (Continued from April 20th, 2005)
Application by
Roger W. Galligan on behalf of Dr. Artemis S. Pinkerson for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to construct a 96 x 15 addition with
alterations to include new foundation, reconstruction of a first floor walls,
new siding, roofing, windows and doors, replacement of decks and repairs to
existing bulkhead at the property located at 49A Commercial Street,
Provincetown, MA.
The applicant re-presented
the case and re-explained the items to clarify them for members of the HDC.
They are proposing a renovation to the existing structure. The Counsel
representing the owner explained reasons for the application. New blueprints
were supplied with corrections and changes from those presented on April 20th.
The applicant is raising the first floor thereby raising the second floor. He
wants to bring the ceiling height on the first floor to code and to conform
with FEMA.
The public was asked for
comments and there were no responses.
Doug Taylor, Building
Commissioner, explained the ceiling height code stating that the ceiling height
has to be 76. A general discussion ensured regarding ceiling height in
relation to the codes. A short discussion regarding external stairs followed.
Meg Stewart emphazed that
the HDC can override the code if need be. John Dowd expressed his opinion in
keeping to the original form of the building as much as possible.
Counsel stated that some
portions of the building are not visible from public ways. Meg Stewart
suggested that a site visit be made to check on the visibility of certain
elevations.
The architect explained
the fenestration and the changes requested. John Dowd explained that with the
added height the current windows would be proportionally too small.
It was moved to table the
discussion until a site visit can be made. Because of the meeting running late,
it was decided, with the consent of the applicants, to make the site visit at
3:30 PM on May 18th.
Case
#2005-36 (Continued from April 20th,
2005 and will be continued on May 18th, 2005)
Application by
William N. Rogers, P.E., P.L.S. on behalf of Harlan J. and Lois G. Streib for a
Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to lift the existing
main building and cottage and install new brick faced crawl space foundations.
Renovate the existing main building in-place, with no increase in height or
size. Renovate the existing cottage, in-place, with an increase of 18 to peak
height (existing height is 17 10 and proposed height will be 10 4). Install
new structural members and framing along with the replacement and/or relocation
of existing windows and doors at the property located at 44-48 Pearl Street,
Provincetown, MA.
Case
#2005-40 Application by Barnett Adler on behalf of
Brenda Dean and Jill Smith for
a Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the
Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the General
By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval
to repair/rebuild the front porch; repair/rebuild the front steps and bring the
staircase in line with the bungalow style of house at the property located at 6
Atlantic Street, Provincetown, MA.
Barnett Adler
and Deborah Paine explained that structural problems were found with the porch
when the shingles were removed. A general discussion followed regarding the
placement of the columns at the top of the stairs. The applicant agreed to move
the columns to the width of the staircase.
A motion was
made to accept the application with changing the position of the columns to
line up with the width of the stairs. This is covered by Guideline #6a.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Polly
Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 0
Case
#2005-41 Application by Neal Kimball on behalf of
Thomas Ravenel for a
Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to replace all
existing awning and fixed picture windows on ground level with new double hung
windows with pine trim at the property located at 8 Cook Street,
Provincetown, MA.
Neal Kimball
explained the application and adding an egress door on the 1st floor
on the South side of the building.
A motion was
made to accept this application as presented with the note to have the
handrails be evenly spaced and captured between the top and bottom rails and
the chimney to be removed. The Guidelines are #13 for the stairs, #6a for the
doors and #8b for the chimney.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Carol
Neal Yea: 4 Nay: 0
Case
#2005-42 Application by Neal Kimball on behalf of
Vernon Brown for a
Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval for the renovation of
four free-standing cottages including reframing of roofs to increase pitch,
remove covered patio from cottages 3 & 4 and bump out footprints and
replace all windows and doors and change placement at the property located at 10
Washington Avenue, Provincetown, MA.
John Dowd asked
for comments from the public regarding this application. No members of the
public in favor were in attendance. David Chambers of 12 Washington Avenue
expressed his concern about the raising the height of the cottages. Aletha
Metcalf of 8 Law Street opposed the changes as she felt that the alterations
would change the character of the neighborhood. Gary Coll of 165 Bradford
Street felt that the changes would completely block the view of sky, light,
etc. Paul Newman of 8 Washington Street agreed with the other speaks and spoke
against the application.
Doug Taylor,
Building Commissioner, stated that he would not require a second means of
egress other than the bedroom windows.
Neal Kimball
described the changes to cottages 1 and 2. He sated that the footprint will be
the same with both cottages. Cottages 3 and 4 are similar and are connected by
a covered patio. It was felt that the footprints of cottages 3 and 4 would be
increased by taking away the open patio area.
Polly Brunell
felt that she had a problem with accepting the application with many buildings
on one street being made taller at one time. It would change the streetscape.
Meg Stewart agreed.
David Chambers,
abutter, would like to see a compromise on the heights of the cottages. There
was a general discussion regarding the preservation of the cottage complex and
was emphasized by Carol Neal, Meg Stewart and Polly Brunell.
Neal Kimball
stated that the cottages have to be gutted due to mold, rot, etc.
Meg Stewart
asked what the height would be of cottage 1 if the increase in height of the 1st
floor to 76 which is code. Mr. Kimball stated that it would be about 118
with the same roof pitch.
Carol Neal felt she could reach a compromise in giving
more space. John Dowd felt that the ceiling height could come up to 76 and
reduce the overall height from the plan. He has a problem with the bumpout of
cottages 3 and 4 and felt that the design should be more in relation with
cottages 1 and 2.
Mr. Kimball requested that he return in two weeks with
new drawings incorporating the suggested changes.
A motion was made to continue this case at the Mary 18th
meeting.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Polly
Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 0
Case #2005-43 Application by Glenn Cesan for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to extend an existing second floor roofline to
provide for a small painting studio and storage area at the property located at
10 Commercial Street, Provincetown, MA.
Glen Cesan
explained his application request to extend the existing second floor roofline.
His plans showed octagon shaped windows that the HDC members were against.
Small square windows were suggested.
Carol Neal read
a letter from two condo members requesting more information. The owner of the
property mentioned that the condo owners approved the plans and that the two
members were not present as they were away at the time of the meeting. There
were no comments from the public.
John Dowd
suggested that awning windows with factory-applied muntins be used in lieu of
the octagon windows.
A motion was
made to approve the application with the change that the windows be small
standard windows covered by Guideline #s 5c and 15.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Polly
Burnell Yea: 3 Nay: 1
Meg Steward
voted against.
A new drawing
will be sent to Maxine Notaro showing the window change.
Case
#2005-44 Application by Joe Smith for a Certificate of Compliance to
be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown.
The applicant seeks approval to reduce the beach side attic roof to create a
deck; raise the attic roof 4; replace
skylights with dormers; enclose the outside stairs in the entry and ell on the
west side; replace windows and doors; reside and re-shingle; construct new deck
rails and columns; remove the cinder block chimney and add a flue for a wood
stove at the property located at 151A Commercial Street, Provincetown, MA.
John DeSouza explained the changes and
stated that at one time the building was a waterfront workshop and is now a
2-family house. He also mentioned that the changes would not be a massive
change of increase in scale. The scale will be the smallest compared to the
neighboring buildings. He also explained the changes requested to each
elevation.
John Dowd asked the public for comments.
Richard Schneider of 153 Commercial Street stated that the building was a 19th
century fish shack. He felt that the basic architectural integrity has
remained. Mary Beth Crachetta of Conan Street spoke on behalf of neighbors on
Conan Street and mentioned the historical aspects of the building and the
historical integrity of the seascape. Donald Vaughan, a condominium owner at
153 Commercial Street, spoke against the application and destroying an
historical building. He asked that the HDC make a site visit to see it more
accurately than the pictures provided. He submitted a letter he head to be
placed in the file.
John DeSouza replied to the comments made
by Mr. Vaughan and said that the building was not a fish shack but
opriginally a woodworking shop. He also responded to other points Mr. Vaughan
made.
Carol Neal proposed a site visit. Those
in attendance at the site visit were HDC members John Dowd, Polly Burnell, Meg
Stewart and Carol Neal. Two abutters and the applicants were also in
attendance.
Polly Burnell stated that the building
was pure. It was also stated that in the presentation the bulding remains in
balance and scale.
A motion was made to accept the
application as proposed with the exception that the dormers on the East
elevation will be removed from the plans, in exchange for allowance of dormers
on west elevation. The dormers on the West elevation will be re-presented as
shed-type set back from the North/South elevations. A new drawing for the West
elevation will be submitted.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded by: Polly Burnell Yea: 3 Nay:
1
Meg
Stewart voted against
A motion was
made to adjourn the meeting at 8:30 PM.
Moved by: Carol Neal Seconded by: Polly Burnell Yea:
4 Nay: 0
Respectfully
submitted by
Joel
Glasser
Recording
Secretary
Approved
by: _________________________________________ on _________________________
John Dowd, Chairman Date