Historic
District Commission
Meeting
of
September
15, 2004, 4:00 PM
Members Present: John Dowd, Chairman; Meg Stewart; Polly
Burnell; Carol Neal; Paul Church; Tom Boland (Alternate), and Eric Dray
(Alternate)
Town Hall Representatives: Maxine Notaro, Permit Coordinator.
The Work Session
commenced at 3:30 PM.
Work
Session
Review of Previous Cases
·
East
Elevation – Kitchen ell,
two outer walls and shed roof will be removed and reconstructed on same
footprint. Floors will be reconstructed. Foundation with existing red brick
wall will remain. Reinforcement will be from inside. Chimneys will be
replicated in original design and location with replicated old brick. Replace
and relocate windows on East elevation as per Guidelines 5b and c and shown on
plan. Deck on second floor as shown on drawing is approved. The addition of
roof deck, as shown on drawing, is covered by Guidelines 9a, c and 13.
·
West
Elevation – Approve door
trim as shown on drawing; replace cedar shingles with cedar clapboard as shown
on drawing. Relocation of two windows and addition of two doghouse dormers
(covered by Guideline 8a).
·
South
Elevation – Addition of
window as shown on drawing.
·
North
Elevation – Approval of
two skylights (covered by Guideline 8c) as shown on drawing and relocation of
one window and addition of three more windows as per the drawing (covered by
Guidelines 5b and c).
Moved by: Meg Stewart Seconded by:
John Dowd Yea: 5 Nay: 0
Case #2004-070 Application by Jeanne Brouillette and Nancy Larkham for a Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance
with the Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the
General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to replace five
(5) windows with five (5) one over one (1/1) vinyl replacement windows at the
property located at 480 Commercial
Street, Provincetown, MA.
A motion was
made to approve replacement of five windows with vinyl 1/1 windows in
accordance with Guideline 5a.
Moved by: Paul Church Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 5 Nay: 0
John Hopkins of
Augustus Construction explained the demolition of the garage and the relocation
of the cottage. The applicants still have to appear before the Zoning Board.
There were no public comments regarding this application.
A motion was
made to accept the proposal to demolish the garage structure and to replace it
with a cottage at 6 Fishburn Court. The demolition is approved as the garage is
marginally visible and significantly deteriorated which is why the HDC is not
asking for a certificate from the Building Commissioner. Guidelines 14 and 15
cover this.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 1
Paul Church opposed
Case
#2004-072 Application by Neal Kimball on behalf of
Jerry Clare for a Certificate
of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic
District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the
Town of Provincetown. The applicant
seeks approval for the construction of a new two-story single-family dwelling
on a vacant lot at the property located at 28 Commercial Street, which
is accessed from Point Street, Provincetown, MA.
Neal Kimball
stated that the intention of construction was to keep the building as compact
as could be. The North and South elevations would be visible. Footprint of
house is small because of restrictions. 6/6 windows are Anderson woodscape,
interior/exterior with divided light.
The public was
asked for comments and Roger Haynes of 21 Point Street had no objections. Julie
Goodritch, an abutter, worried about fitting the house into surrounding
community such as being top tall. She was concerned about house being too big.
John Dowd closed
the public comment portion and the Commission members were asked for comments
and questions. Tom Boland stated that he did not find anything bad in the
design and would like to compare it with what is almost immediately adjacent to
the property.
Eric Dray stated
that he looks at the fenestration pattern. He feels that the inside of this cottage
is dictating the outside design. The South and North elevations were
articulated very well and he asked if the East elevation could be improved.
Polly Brunell
felt that the building is too large for the street that mostly contains small
cottages. Paul Church agreed with Ms Brunell and was concerned with the
character of the neighborhood and would like to see the building blend in more
with the Goodritch cottage. John Dowd agreed with the other members of the
Commission and stated that the house seems more than what is needed and should
be brought more in line with the neighbors. Carol Neal and Meg Stewart also
agreed and would scale the building down and thought that it is too high and
both feel that it should be lowered.
A motion was
made to continue this Case until the next meeting, October 6th,
2004. It is based on Guideline 15.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 5 Nay: 0
Note: Tom Boland had to leave the meeting at
5:45 PM.
Case
#2004-073 Application by Construction Management
Services on behalf of ComCast
for a Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the
Provincetown Historic District Commission established under the General
By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of Provincetown. The applicant seeks approval to demolish the existing 20’ x 32’
structure and reconstruct a new 20’ x 32’ ranch style dwelling within the
existing footprint at the property located at 36 Shank Painter Road,
(ComCast Building), Provincetown, MA.
Eric Dray stated
that the building is in the historic district and a determination should be
made if the building is significant. If it is determined so, then the
Demolition Delay By-law has to be invoked.
The applicant
wants to remove the building and erect a new building on the existing foundation
so there would be no need for a long handicap ramp.
A motion was
made that the building is not significant within the meaning of the Demolition
Delay By-law.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 1
Paul
Church opposed
Case
#2004-074 Application by John DeSouza on behalf of
David Brown for a
Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The
applicant seeks approval to remove a non-historic one car garage, remove vinyl
and aluminum siding on main dwelling and restore with shingles and clapboards,
replace and repair fences and construct a fence and gate at the back of the
patio area at the property located at 4 Winslow Street, Provincetown, MA.
John
DeSouza and the owner, David Brown, want to: Remove all aluminum and vinyl
siding and restore wood to the original appearance; remove garage; and, repair
and replace fences around the property.
Meg
Stewart did not agree with the privacy fencing. Carol Neal did not agree with
the eight-foot fence. John Dowd suggested that the same fencing be used on
three sides to unify it. The other Commission members agreed.
Regarding
the demolition of the garage, Eric Dray had no problem with the demolition of
this structure. Polly Brunell agreed even though she has strong feelings about
any demolition. Paul Church did not agree with the demolition just to have more
space. John Dowd stated that by demolishing the garage it lets the building
have more space and be viewed. Carol Neal agreed and was against the demolition
and referred to Guideline 14. Meg Stewart agreed with Paul Church and does not
agree with the demolition of structures.
A
motion was made to accept the 6’ plank fence on three sides behind the façade
of the building and graduate it down from the façade to the street line. The
fence on the street elevation will have a capped rail fence, 21”, with equal
spaced pickets and the Commission agrees to the demolition of the garage for
extraordinary circumstances: It is an accessory structure not significant to
the 1780 house on the site; and, it appears to have lost its original features
of the 1920s era. The removal of vinyl and aluminum siding to restore house to
its original appearance subject to restoring original details and trim if found
in any historic photograph.
Moved
by: John Dowd Seconded
by: Carol Neal Yea: 3 Nay: 2
Meg
Stewart and Paul Church opposed.
Case
#2004-075 Application by John DeSouza on behalf of
Damon Leard and Robert Tracy for
a Certificate of Compliance to be issued in accordance with the Provincetown
Historic District Commission established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15
of the Town of Provincetown. The
applicant seeks approval to replace windows, extend sunroom and add roof deck,
extend 2nd story el and add roof decks and studio, remove skylights
and metal flue, replace sliders with bay windows and French doors, and the
addition of a traditional style doorway with entry hood to create a secondary
egress at the property located at 7 Carver Street, Provincetown, MA.
John
DeSouza and Damon Leard handed out copies of the proposed alterations with an
explanation and spoke about each of the alterations.
Meg
Stewart had to leave the meeting at 7:25 PM and Alternate Eric Dray sat in.
Public
comments were asked for and there were none.
John
Dowd made suggestions about the roof deck, front door and other facades of the
house. Polly Brunell commented on the number of windows on the South elevation.
Eric Dray as well as Carol Neal stated that they were concerned with the North
elevation. The members stated that they would have a problem if the façade was
visible.
A
motion was made to approve this Case as submitted with the following changes:
West elevation restoration of corner boards and other decorations; South
elevation extension of sun porch with windows as shown on the plan with the
revision that rail on 2nd floor extends to meet the slope of the
roof and the remainder of extension ell be based on minimum degree of
visibility on the South elevation; North elevation addition and relocation of
windows approved pursuant to Guideline 5c. Approval of ell and shed dormer with
provision that two shuttered windows be added centered over the back two.
Moved
by: Eric Dray Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 4 Nay: 0 Abstained: 1
Paul
Church abstained.
Case
#2004-076 Application by Sprinkle Home
Improvement on behalf of Karen Click and Nancy McLane for a Certificate of Compliance to be
issued in accordance with the Provincetown Historic District Commission
established under the General By-Laws, Chapter 15 of the Town of
Provincetown. The applicant seeks
approval to remove eight wood double-hung windows with storm windows and
install eight white vinyl replacement style windows with grids and remove the
existing entry door and replace with a new fiberglass primary door with same
grid count at the property located at 383 Commercial Street,
Provincetown, MA.
Brad Sprinkle
appeared for the applicant. He said that four windows face the street and four
face an alley. Six are 12/8 and two are 8/8. He wants to change the white wood
to white vinyl. The fiberglass door would be a 12 light door.
Eric Dray stated
that vinyl doors are generally not acceptable by the Historic District
Commission.
Mr. Sprinkle
said that there would be external factory applied muntins on the windows.
John Dowd asked
for any public comments. Ted Shaefer, a resident of the condominium complex,
spoke and felt that the design standards should be made by the condominium
association not an individual resident and was against the proposal. He also
felt that the condominium residents should appear before the HDC as a unit.
There was a
general discussion of replacement of wooden windows with vinyl windows.
A motion was
made to allow eight double hung windows and replace them with white vinyl
windows with three-dimensional trapezoidal external muntins. The four on front
are 12/8; two in rear are 12/8; and the other two in the rear are 8/8. Eric
Dray would like to see a manufacturer’s spec such as a catalog page.
It was moved to
accept the above and replace the wood door in kind.
Moved by: Polly Burnell Seconded by:
Meg Stewart Yea:
4 Nay: 1
Paul Church opposed
After some
discussion a motion was made to empower the Commission members or Maxine Notaro
to sign certificates.
Moved by: John Dowd Seconded
by: Polly Burnell Yea: 5 Nay: 0
A motion was
made to accept the minutes of the September 1, 2004 meeting as corrected.
Moved by: Eric Dray Seconded
by: Paul Church Yea: 4 Nay: 0 Abstained: 1
John
Dowd Abstained
A motion was
made to adjourn the meeting at 8:25 PM.
Moved by: Paul Church Seconded by:
Carol Neal Yea: 5 Nay: 0
Respectfully
submitted by
Joel
Glasser
Recording
Secretary
Approved by:
_________________________________________ on _________________________
John Dowd, Chairman Date